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※ベンチマーク等々についてはこちらをどうぞ
PSO2 キャラクタークリエイト体験版 EPISODE4 設定6の様子 with GeForce GTX 690
ぷれすてよんたろうでは実に熱いコメントが飛び交っていて、興味津々で拝見しました。私も考えさせられるところが多く、有意義な議論だと感じています。
・・・が、この熱量を、『真に受け止めるべき対象は一体誰なのか?』・・・言うまでもなく運営・開発さんたちですよね。プレイヤー同士であれやこれや言い合っても、仕方がないですから。
本当であればディスカッションする場所・・・って、it-tells(いってる)さん? 確かそちらに開発者さんとやりとりできるコミュニティーがあるのでしたっけ?~? 利用していないものなので、よくはわからないのですが・・・。
ひとまず、あれらの内容は単なるコメント返しにすると長くなりそうですので、後日改めてその部分は記しますね。魂のこもったご意見を、ありがとうございました。本当に私は幸せ者です。
今日記しておくのは、どっかのship1のアークスさんから前々にコメントをいただいているにもかかわらず、何も記せていませんでしたので(@_@) 夏を過ぎて秋になってしまいましたが、ここに私なりの「設定6に対する考察」を簡単にまとめておきます。
きっと読みたいのでしょう、来られている方は・・・?(汗笑)
では、私なりにあれやこれやとここに綴っておきますね。書いていたらあまりに長くなりすぎましたので、前編・後編に分けます。今回の前編は、いわゆるハードウェア周り・・・機械部分のお話です。
分けても長かったですので・・・先に結論を記しておきましょう。
設定6を快適に動かせるであろうと思われるグラフィックスカードは・・・
GeForce GTX 970 / RADEON HD R9 380以上!
(>2016年2月下旬に体験版の配布が予告されたため、2月時点でのおすすめに変更しておきます)
では、なぜ上記のようにしたのかを追っていきましょう。
まず、「現行世代」となった2機種(WiiUだけは・・・すみません、候補外で(@_@))に加え、最新世代のぱそ子さんを加えた3つのスペックシートを並べてみます。
PCについては、CPUを最新のSkylake(Core iX 6000番台)、グラフィックスカード/GPUについてはNVIDIA社の「GeForce GTX 960」をあげておきます。
Xbox One | PlayStation 4 | PC | |
CPU Codename | Jaguar | Jaguar | Skylake |
Primary CPU Configuration | 4 + 4 | 4 + 4 | 2 + 2/4/4 + 4 |
Auxiliary Processor | – | ○ | – |
Clock Rate | 1.75GHz | 1.6GHz | 3.2GHz |
GPU Codename | Bonaire | Pitcairn | Maxwell 2.0 |
Stream Processors (SP) | 768 | 1152 | 1024 |
Render OutPut unit (ROP) | 16 | 32 | 32 |
Texture Mapping Unit (TMU) | 48 | 72 | 64 |
GPU Clock | 853MHz | 800MHz | 1178MHz (Boost) |
Memory Clock (Effective) | 2132MHz | 5500MHz | 9333MHz (MAX) |
Memory Bus | 256bit | 256bit | 128bit |
Rated Floating Point | 1.31TFLOPS | 1.84TFLOPS | 2.3TFLOPS |
Bandwidth | 68.3GB/s | 176GB/s | 148.8GB/s (MAX) |
Unified Memory | 8GB DDR3 | 8GB GDDR5 (+250MB DDR3) | 2GB GDDR5 |
eSRAM | 32MB (192GB/s) | – | – |
ざっとこんな感じでしょうか。ぱそ子さんに慣れ親しんでいない方にとっては、こちらをごらんになるだけで「??!」となってしまうハズ。
(なので、ぱそ子さんの購入ガイドではそういった部分を全て端折って、要のグラフィックスカードだけを基準に記しているわけです)
とりあえず、上のシートで注目しておきたい箇所を色分け、太字にしてあります。2カ所ですね。
本サイトで紹介しているアンチエイリアシングプロファイルなどを、十二分に活用するための礎となる部分。それが「Render OutPut unit (ROP)」「Memory Bus」の2つです。日本語ではそのまんま、「ROPユニット」「メモリインターフェース(=メモリバス幅)」などと呼んでいます。
PSUの頃に記したパソコンの授業・5時間目の中で取り扱った部分ですが、簡単に言うと「スムーズに映像を表示させるためのデータの通り道の太さ(幅)、並びにデータを運び出す機械が何基搭載されているか?」を示すものとなります。
道幅が広ければそれだけたくさんのデータを同時にやりとりできますし、出力する機械が多ければ多いほど、分担して映像を映し出せますからね。なので、考える要素はたくさんあるにはありますが、「性能を決定的にする部分」としてこの2つの用語を覚えていただければ。
そうして「1秒間あたりにどれだけのデータ量をやりとりできるか?」を数値化したものが、斜体にしてある「Bandwidth」となります。別名で「Transfer rate(転送量)」ともいいますよね。
よく「Xbox OneとPS4では、どっちが性能が高いの?」といわれますけど、表を見たらいうまでもありませんよね。PS4が「圧倒的」といえるくらいに差をつけています。その理由が、あげた部分を比較すれば顕著に差がついていることから、ご納得いただけるのでは。
そう、映像表示装置=ROPが「倍も違う」のですから。言うなれば、世代が前になりますが「GTX 680と同等の数」をもっているわけですよ。これはとても大きいです。
そしてこの数は「フルハイビジョン(=現在の家庭向け液晶テレビの標準)解像度へ綺麗に映し出せる量として理にかなったもの」となるため、PS4が強いとされるのはそのあたりにあります。
近々Xbox Oneで性能を50%近く引き上げられる、神アップデートがあるとかないとかいわれてはいますけど、「元々の性能差が激しい(=表示装置が半分しかない)状況下でたとえ50%上がったとしても、逆転には至らない」のがつらいところです(もちろん、何もしないよりは遙かにましですけどね)。
ソフトウェアの最適化は確かに大切なことですが、「そのソフトを動かす土台となる、ハードウェア周りで決定的な差がついていると、どうしようにもありません」。ゆえ、「勝てる見込みがない」と敗北宣言じみた話が最近話題のようですが、今後数年を生きなくてはならないコンソール機(家庭用ゲーム機)にとっては死活問題。
Xbox Oneははっきり言ってしまえば、そのフルハイビジョンを満たせるだけの性能にも到達できていない、のですね。もっとも、こちらのムービーをご覧になって「差がわからない」ようであれば、「うまくごまかせている」がため、「どちらでもいい」とはなってしまいますが。
ちょっと脱線しかかっていますので、軌道修正しましょう。つまるところ、「PS4はフルハイビジョン画質をほぼ問題ないレベルで表示できるハードウェア性能を有している」機械となるため、
「お使いのパソコンにおいても、PS4と同等以上の性能を求められる」ことは簡単に想像できることでしょう。
そして、そのくせ者となるのが「ROPが32基、メモリインターフェースが256bit」用意されたグラフィックスカード、になるわけですね。なめらかに表示するためには、絶対に譲れない部分となります。
-一番何が問題なのか?
・・・彼らが今までに「推奨パソコン」として売ってきた大半のぱそ子さんが、その性能を満たさないからなのです。
-どうしてこうなったのか?
・・・できるだけいろんな人に楽しんでもらうべく、低スペックのぱそ子さんでも遊べるよう念頭において設計してきた代償を伴うことになり、高画質周り(設定6)ではその思想が逆に作用するということを。
-ざっくりいうと?
・・・彼らが提案してきた10万円以内のぱそ子さんでは、ゲーム面においてPS4並の性能さえ有さない恐れが高いのです。
ゆえに彼らが口ごもってしまうのですよ。
彼らが必死に「10万円出せば、これだけ楽しいオンラインRPGが遊べますよ~!まだやってないんですか?!こんなに楽しいのに!いかがですか~!」と宣伝してきているわけですけど、
ぱそ子さんに縁のなかった方にとって、10万円という金額は紛れもなく「高嶺の花な商品」であると。
ですのに「10万円も出して買ったパソコンが、PS4に表示性能で負けるだけでなく、快適に遊べる度合いでもかなわない恐れがある」ことになろうとは、誰が想像できましょうか。買った人から見たら由々しき事態ですよね。ふざけるな~!と。
なので・・・TGSでのお披露目は「何も反省していないですね・・・」と、苦笑しながら見つめていましたけど。
あのような紹介の仕方では、明らかに「パソコン版よりもPS4版が綺麗ですよ!!」と宣伝しているようにしか見えないのですよ・・・□_ヾ( ̄∀ ̄*)
ですので、期待できるものは何もないのかな、とか。どうにも、消費者の・・・プレイヤーの視線を考えていないプレゼンテーションだったのかな、と感じさせられました。
コメントにもありましたけど、結局「抵抗を減らすべく、周りに同調しようとする」となると、設定5はおろか、3で実況配信をするケースが多いらしく。そういった部分でも物語っているわけなのですよね。
「画質を高める=綺麗にするメリットはどこにあるのでしょうか?」、と。
その部分を言及するお題ではありませんのでここでは割愛しますが、結局、PS4の性能を実現するためには最低でも「ROPが32基、メモリインターフェースが256bit」必要なのです。
そしてそれを満たすのが「GeForce GTX x70 / RADEON HD R9 380以上」になりますよ。
GeForce GTX 960を取り上げたのは、最新世代のグラフィックスカードということで、幅が半分ではあるものの、性能的には極端には見劣りしないため載せています。が、欲を言えば「970が、いいですよ・・・」となってしまいます。
なぜなら、決定的な部分として「映像を乗せておく受け皿=ビデオメモリが2GBしかない」のであります・・・(’’
(興味のある方はご自身でRADEON系列も調べてみるといいでしょう(R9 380Xの性能))
一昔前・・・PSU時代までならそれで十分間に合いましたけど。最近はその上の4Kといった基準までできてしまい、カードに対する要求も高まってきています。
いいたいことは、そう。PS4は(おおよそではありますが)「制作者側で5GB程度はメモリを使うことができ、映像をリッチにしようと思えばグラフィックスだけで2GBを超過した作りにすることも十分考えられる」がためなのです。
ところが、肝心な売ってきたぱそ子さんのグラフィックスカードのビデオメモリが2GBしかないのであれば、どうしようにもありませんよね、と(@_@)
なので、必然的に960以下はアウトとなってしまうのでした。
(ただし、近々960は4GBのみとするようで、2GB版は終息させるようです)
∮ ∮ ∮
いかがでしょう。ハードウェア周りを述べるだけでも、こんなに行数を使ってしまいましたが、おおよそいわんとすることは伝わりましたか?
ちなみに970はROPが56基、メモリインターフェースが256bit、メモリサイズ3.5GB(実質値)なので、十分満たせるものになっています。RADEONについてはあまり触れられていませんが、PS4に搭載されているGPUが前世代の「HD 7850」というものが基準になっていますので・・・
その基準にならうと、R9 380といったキーワードになるのです。PS4はRADEON系列のチップになりますから、場合によってはPSO2起動時のロゴ表示に、RADEONマークが復活する可能性も、あるのかもしれません。ベンチマークなどはこちらを参考にしてみてください。GTX 960と並んでいる様を確認できるでしょう。
AMDのミドルレンジGPU「Radeon R9 380X」を試す – PC Watchさん
あと、誤解してほしくないところとしましては、「それが故のパソコンでもありますよ」。
ええ、そうです。「性能が足りないのなら、グラフィックスカードを買い直せばいい」のです。
問題なのは、「そのカードに3~4万円もはたいてまでして、自分は買いたいのか?」という点。
970クラスのカードは最安値でも4万円はしてしまい、そうなってしまうとPS4が買えてしまうではないですか、と(汗笑)。
であれば、ぱそ子さんはそのままにしておいて、PS4を買ってほかのゲームも楽しむ、とする方がおそらく幸せになれるのではないでしょうか。撮影・録画機能も内蔵していますし、配信周りについて「難しいことを何も考えずに実行できる」のが、コンソール機の強みなのです。
エララさんのご意見に詳細がありまして、GeForce Experienceなどを用いれば確かに、そのあたりをかなえてくれるツールにはなります。が、パソコンの場合はそのソフトの使い方ですとか、録画をする際の保存先・・・HDDの容量なり、画質設定なり。
細かい部分が多いから、敷居が高くなりすぎるのです。ゆえに私としてはパソコンよりも、PS4を勧めてしまいますね。
サポート業務をしたことがある人ならわかるでしょうが、「期待させては、だめ」なのですよね。最初は絶望させておくのがいいのです。
絶望から始まり、そして希望に転ずるストーリーが描ければ感動も大きくなります。その逆は・・・無論、言うまでもなく印象は最悪ですよね。
今回のPS4版・設定6というのは、ハードウェア・・・機械周りにおいては、本当に難しいお題になっていると感じます。
なので、彼らが最初に蒔いた種は、今となっては火種と化してしまいましたが。
らべとしては、はっきりと、こう伝えておきますね。
「グラフィックスカードに4万円を出せない人は、素直にPS4を検討しましょう」
なぜなら、そう。PS4は値下げされて4万円せずに買えるのですから。それでいて、
『彼らがPS4で快適に動くよう、全力でファインチューニングを施してくれる』はずですから。
NVIDIA InspectorやらドライバーやらGeForce Experienceやらの、難しい予備知識は不要です。待っているだけで、PS4へ最適化してくれる。まさにパソコンが苦手な人にうってつけではないでしょうか。
それでいて今後の旬なゲームタイトルも一緒に遊べてしまいます。大画面のテレビで。
さぁ、・・・あなたはどちらを選びますか・・・?
・・・なんて(‘-‘*)
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R7 360E買う予定の人 | 2016.01.21 18:04
おおむね、そんな感じだとは思うけど、いくつか別視点で。
1. FPSをあまりこだわらない。
FPS(ファースト パーソン シューティング)でなければ、FPSはある程度妥協できてしまうま。最低30。平均45程度でも十分ゲームになると思えば、 750Ti/R7 360Eあたりでも、十分6が使えるんでないかと。
2.メモリは2Gbytで十分な罠
設定5でも、600-700あたりで行き来するぐらいしか使わないので、テクスチャの転送回数が増えるのを許容すれば、2Gbytで十分足りるという。というか、SEGAがそこまで無茶してテクスチャメモリを食う使用にしてくるとは思えないというか。
3.撮影会以外は、設定を下げればいいんだ!(名案)
内蔵オンボードAMDでも、そこそこ動くし、撮影の時に5にするという、ウルトラCな遊び方でも、自キャラ愛は堪能できるよっと。
あっきー-Aki- | 2015.10.13 5:36
お久しぶりです、ちらちら更新を再開されてるようで暗心しました!(ぷそ感
ここ最近ずっと更新がないぞ・・・?と思いつつも見ていたら、かの経緯があり
更新を止めて居たのですね・・・
PS4版、および画質設定6は個人的に早く来てくれー><と待ち遠しい中で
未だに熱を衰えずプレイできてる人達は、一体どれほど居るのでしょうかね(震え声
vita勢のフレンド達は逆にPS4を所持しているからか、PS4版来たら本気出す()
状態で、中々寂しいチームリスト状況ですが、PC勢の一部も復帰していたりで
まだまだ楽しめてる勢が居てホッとしております(逆にまだPSO2に依存する形が続いてるが故にと個人的に愚考しますがね・・・)
コメントこそ滅多にしないですが、きっとIPやらで頻繁に来てるのがバレてると
思いますが!(///)更新頑張ってください~(´∀`)